So Cal Real Estate News

April 10 update: In the week since writing this post, the roller coaster ride of hopeful and negative news has continued unabated.

One thing that concerns us is this week’s release of California’s Foreclosure stats for March, however (see “So Cal Defaults Up Again & What it Means”). has got us reconsidering. But there are a couple hopeful possibilities we’re also keeping our eyes on. We’re watching to see what Congress might do next, and keeping another eye on the ever-surprising Fed.

So stay tuned for further developments. In the meantime, we still think this is as accurate a description of where we’re at & where we’re going as we can write. For now.

We concluded our last post (”Two Problems with DataQuick’s Median Prices,” with our observation that the actual drop in So Cal home values from top to current bottom is about 25 - 30% (less in higher end areas, more in condos, starter areas, and areas with lots of new construction).

The obvious question is, “How Much More Should So Cal Prices Have to Correct?”

25 - 30% may well be about the right amount of correcting–nobody knows for sure, as we keep saying (see “How Low will Prices Go?“).

But the market will almost certainly overcorrect, especially with all the current negativity, all the foreclosures still in process, and the difficulties getting mortgages continuing.

Ben Bernanke, the Fed Chairman, thinks governmental actions already in place will begin to kick in later this year, and things will slowly begin improving from there. He hopes, but he’s not sure. (See “Bernanke predicts bottom later this year” for excerpts from his Wednesday testimony with our English “translation”/summaries.) Remember, however, that part of his job seems to be keeping an optimistic spin going.

But UC San Diego’s Nobel Prize winning economist, Clive Granger, thinks the U.S. economy has already been in a recession for about four months. He expects the current recession to last an additional 2-6 months, depending on what occurs in the housing and financial markets. Like Bernanke, that puts the bottom later this year.

Slightly more pessimistic is Freddie Mac Chief Economist Frank Nothaft. (He was also the panelist from last October’s CAR Expo who formed the basis for our belief that nobody knows what will happen next with his remarks that “we’re in uncharted territory.”) (Obviously, that belief hasn’t stopped us from making our best guesses at what’s next.)

Maybe Dr. Nothaft now thinks the picture’s becoming a bit clearer. Last week he told a lunch audience that he expects that life should begin to return to the housing sector late this year or early next but says prices may not recover significantly until 2010.

Then this morning DataQuick released figures for OC showing prices were still dropping but sales volume is continuing to rise, as we’ve been predicting (see the Register’s R.E. blog for details). (Also bear in mind what we said yesterday about DataQuick’s numbers being several months behind, among other things.

Then this afternoon the Register blog put up another post quoting a South OC Realtor who does a lot of number crunching saying what we basically said a month ago, that activity’s picking up.

Now remember what we said about those two So Cal real estate market cycles on Wednesday. Annual cycle: up in the spring, down in the fall. Add in these predictions that the economic cycle may be nearing a bottom, and what do you get? Could it be we’ll hit bottom this winter, not a year later as we had been thinking?

Maybe, but what about today’s increase in unemployment to 5.1%, with economists particularly worried because the drop was so broadspread, no longer limited to housing and construction.

This morning I spoke with one broker I’ve known for 30 years about activity in his office. Yeah, he said, sales (opening of escrows) were up in February, but then they dropped a bit in March, and the last few weeks have been especially slow. The March slowdown he attributed to actual competition for houses, citing one agent who had presented 8 offers for one buyer who needed help with closing costs. There were enough competing offers and enough buyer activity that the sellers were no longer making those concessions.

The cause of the slowdown over the last two weeks , however, was harder to figure out. “Dave, there’s just so many cross currents,” he told me. “The market’s just in flux.”

That flux may mean that we’re nearing a bottom. Or it may mean the mini-upturn we saw in February and March is turning down.

Or it may just mean it’s still too early to tell what’s going on.

This post was intended to update our projections. So I looked up our most recent forecasting post, March 24’s “What’s Next for Southern California Housing.”

Here’s what we said in summary back then:

“We continue to expect a window of opportunity for sellers for the next several months, followed by opportunities for buyers through this winter. We still thing there’s a significant chance (20%?) of a major price collapse of an additional 15 - 25% , but there’s also a possibility that the worst is behind us.”

“Sorry the picture isn’t clearer, but we’d rather tell you the truth than make something. up”

Looks like there’s not a whole lot to update, although there are some things I might tweak:

• That window of opportunity for sellers may already be starting to close.
• An additional price decline of 5% - 10% through this winter is probably the most likely scenario, but by no means a certainty.
• There’s a significant possibility that the market will bottom this winter, but it’s still to early to really know.
• There’s also evidence that real estate’s woes may spread through the economy and pull prices down much further, into a recession that might last for years.
• Washington is becoming increasingly proactive, which could be good. . . or bad, depending on what specific steps are taken.
• One thing hasn’t changed at all:

Sorry the picture isn’t clearer, but we’d rather tell you the truth than make something up.

What to do? Guess it’s time to again refer to our December 1 post, “What to do when nobody knows what’s next.”

Sorry the picture isn’t clearer, but we’d rather tell you the truth than make something up.

We’d love to hear your thoughts, especially what you see happening in your corner of So Cal.

April 10 note: As of this morning, we’re beginning to think the bottom’s probably at least 20 months off, rather than the 8 we’ve been hoping for recently. Those foreclosure stats we mentioned really have us concerned, but we may be overreacting to one item. Because you never know for sure what’s going to happen next!

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