Posts Tagged ‘choosing a Realtor’

Thoughts on picking a Realtor, affordability, and my first home purchase

Friday, July 11th, 2008

As you may know, a few weeks ago we started what we hope will be the first of several local real estate blogs with LakewoodRealEstateNews.com. Blair and I work both sides of the L.A./Orange County line, and we hope to later add possibly Long Beach and West Orange County blogs as well, maybe more.  You can’t live in Southern California for over 50 years and sell real estate here for almost 30 without getting to know quite a few communities.

Earlier today we put up a post there based on my first home purchase way back in 1976.  We focused primarily on some unique situations in Lakewood, but there are some interesting issues that apply to most Southern California communities.  Especially interesting was a price and rate comparison between 1976 and 2008.  Maybe we’re closer to the bottom than I thought, even with IndyMac’s failure today and all the problems with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

If you’re interested, this link will take you straight to today’s post, “How to pick a Realtor:  Don’t make the mistake I did!

Enjoy. . . and learn–from my mistakes!

A Tale of Three Listings: The probate seller’s big mistake

Thursday, May 29th, 2008

Today we take a look at the first of three listings on the same block that closed escrow in the last few weeks. Two of the homes illustrate common but very costly mistakes sellers make. The other illustrates both pitfalls and strategies for success in today’s market.

Let’s call them “the probate seller who didn’t listen,” “The “flipper” Realtor who didn’t think,” and “The team that made it happen.” Today we’ll take a look at . . .

“The Probate Seller who Didn’t Listen”

We first met “Sue” last fall, shortly after her mother died. Sue was the executrix, and wanted to talk to us about selling her mother’s home.

We met at the property in late September . The home had a lot of deferred maintenance, but Blair & I both thought the family would be wise to get the home on the market quickly. We were pretty sure that the market’s downward spiral would only be made worse by the approaching winter slow season (see “Predictions 101: Our 2 market cycles“).

We felt with a little intense effort the home could be in escrow before the winter holiday slowdown, and we were happy to do our part to help. That included advancing money for some needed work, assisting with several other things to speed things up.

We knew what needed to be done in the face of a market we knew was moving down quickly, and we were willing to devote “over and above” effort to make it happen. I’d rather spend a few hours moving furniture in October than days sitting a slow open house in December.

We also had another reason for trying to move things along. After years of handling probate sales, we’ve learned that closing the sale on the family home, while difficult, invariably helps the family turn a page and move forward. The family almost always thanks us for moving things along.

A Lesson from an Earlier Probate Listing

We’ve closed several such sales of family homes over the last two years, and invariably the family tends to drag things out while prices decline. For example, on one Long Beach sale the two daughter-in-laws wanted to spend an estimated six months sorting, boxing, and holding garage sales on the things their father-in-law had accumulated over fifty years in the home. We advised the family that not only would that prolong a painful process, but the home was almost certain to decline by thousands of dollars every month they delayed.

“You’ll waste six months of weekends, make a few hundred dollars on the garage sales, and lose tens of thousands of dollars on the sale of the home,” I advised them. “Do you really think that’s what Dad would want?”

Most husbands know it’s dangerous to get in the way of a wife with a plan. (I imagine wives experience the same issues with husbands with a plan, since all of us tend to be stubborn, but I can only speak as a husband.) The two daughter-in-laws had their game plan, but fortunately for everyone, the husbands took our advice.

It only took the family one weekend to get what they wanted out of the house. We’ve developed a lot of resources for situations like this, from wholesale auction houses to antique dealers to non-profit thrift stores like the Salvation Army and Food Finders that will actually clear out your cupboards for you. Not to mention painters, handymen, and rehab people. In fact, I’ve got to finish this post pretty soon so I can get over & check on a crew that’s refinishing floors and painting the inside of a listing we just took.

Amnyway, in about two weeks, that home was on the market, in another two it was in escrow, and our swift action saved the family at least $50,000 of their inheritance. By the time we were done, the whole family was glad they listened to us.

A Different Story This Time

Back to the seller who didn’t listen. To speed things up, we began some initial work right away, arranging for a garage sale and large item pick up to help with the staging as well as a termite inspection to identify what required corrections we might want to take care of in advance to improve marketability.

The seller wanted us to meet with her and her husband to complete the listing agreement, and we kept encouraging her to move things along, but other things kept coming up. First they were going to be out of town, then they had guests visiting, then it was something else.

October is generally a decent month for selling, but as you move into November things slow dramatically, and we knew this winter was going to be especially brutal. (DataQuick and other closing reports reflect this slowdown in the months when those sales close escrow, which is why January and February are normally bottoms for closings, as we explain in “Two big problems with DataQuick’s monthly median price reports“).

We were just trying to move things along in a timely fashion, but the Sue the executrix/seller just had other priorities. We knew that this wasn’t going to be as difficult as Sue thought, & we were ready to help expedite things to make it easier on the family.

There is a tendency for people to list with someone who just tells them what they want to hear. We were telling Sue that the winter holidays were breathing down our neck, and time was of the essence. We also felt some minimal cosmetic improvements would go a long way to maximizing the family’s proceeds. And we were willing to advance the money and arrange for the work.

Now, you can’t survive in this business for 28 years without learning how to be diplomatic, but sometimes people just don’t want to hear the truth no matter how diplomaticly it’s presented.

So Sue went out and found an agent who would tell Sue what she wanted to hear, and that was the last we heard from Sue.

Three months later, near the end of January, the home was listed with a fairly experienced local agent who apparently saw no time urgency nor any need for cosmetic improvements. By then, prices had dropped about $40,000 in the neighborhood. No painting, staging, or corrective work was done, another big mistake in our opinion, but not as big as the delay to market. A few months later the price was reduced by $40,000. Two months after that it went into escrow for $30,000 below that reduced price.

It finally closed escow in mid May for $320,000. I’m fairly confident that, had the seller followed our suggestions and time table, we could have sold it for around $425,000, with around $5,000 of painting and work. So in exchange for not having a “pushy” Realtor, Sue lost her and her two sisters about $100,000 and six months.

One Big Mistake

Sue’s main mistake was ignoring the advice of an experienced agent who knew what he was talking about. Instead, she listed for the most common wrong reason out there: Sue found an agent who told her what she wanted to hear (see ” Top 5 ways NOT to pick an agent“).

Disclaimer: I’m not saying experienced Realtors are infallible. (For example, in December of 2007 it appeared to me that the market had bottomed. That was based on an unseasonable December increase in sales and prices. Indeed, that pickup I noticed resulted in DataQuick’s reporting a peak last spring. But I didn’t see last spring’s increase in interest rates, and greatly misjudged the impact of the sub prime crisis. On that one, I relied on the input of the “experts” like DataQuick’s John Karevoll. A really big mistake!)

But I am saying that a thoughtful, honest, experienced table probably knows things the average seller doesn’t. His or her input is worth considering. It’s foolish to simply reject something you don’t want to hear. It’s even more foolish to pick an agent just because he tells you what you want to hear, no matter how enthusiastic he is in agreeing with you. But that’s much easier said than done.

Telling the sellers what they want to hear is the easiest way to get a listing, and almost every agent knows it. In this market, it’s also the easiest way to cost the seller money and to take a listing that expires.

Never make your decision based on the agent’s analysis–instead, check out the agent’s track record and experience, and talk to sellers that agent currently has listed (ask her to bring a complete MLS print-out of all their listings for the past two years. Then ask another agent to print out the same list and make sure the two lists match.)

In a difficult market, picking the right agent is probably the most important decision you’ll make. For more tips on agent selection, you might also want to check out “<a href=”http://socalrealestatenews.com/blog/top-10-ways-not-to-pick-a-listing-agent/” target=”_blank”>Top 10 ways NOT to pick a real estate agent</a>”.

So that’s the sad story of “the probate seller who didn’t listen.” Next is the case of “The “flipper” Realtor who didn’t think,” a home across the street and down from Sue’s, and how that home, like Sue’s contributed to the entire neighborhood’s decline in value.

Please feel free to add your thoughts or questions as a comment below.

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