So Cal Real Estate News

Friday update: The DataQuick OC median numbers discussed below came in this morning, and my predictions yesterday (see post below) came out real close to the actual numbers. Wish I could say the same for my predictions for the Duck in the playoffs. Oh well.

The interesting news is that in every category, DQs actual numbers were stronger than I predicted. What’s that mean? Read on. . . .

OK, here’s my call for tomorrow’s “DataSlow” OC house sales update, which I should be for the 4 weeks ended about 4/21. (We’re still a week away from “DataQuick’s April Median numbers, one of the “Two problems with DataQuick’s median prices.”)

Sales (closings) will be up a decent amount from the prior 4-week period but way down from the year before. Right around 1900 total, off about 40% y-t-y. Continued gradual improvement, typical for deals going into escrow in February.

BTW, April closings, when they get released around 5/15, will be up about the normal amount from the very low March closings (but way below last year). It looks like May will do even better on sales.

Price is another matter. Especially median price. Down a small tad below 20% from a year ago, and up a small tad from the last DQ reported median of $506,000. Maybe $508,000.

However, if you look the details, like in the last report, I think you’ll see the new construction pulling down the overall index with both prices and sales down more than for resales. Resale SFRs and even condos aren’t doing as badly as new construction.

What it means is subject to interpretation. I think if long term mortgage rates (not to be confused with short term fed funds rates) started coming down further, we might have passed the bottom, especially with the activity Steve Thomas and I both are seeing in new escrows.

However, rates are already moving up, and instead of passing fiscal restraint issues to push long term rates down, our beloved Congress continues to try to borrow their way out of this mess with massive bailouts from Bear Stearns to folks who lied to get loans on home they never should have bought or refinanced.

With the interest we’re seeing from buyers, I really think if Congress passed long term fiscal reform, we could put the worst behind us. Things like a line item veto for the next president, cancellation of earmarks, a gradual move to a balanced budget with mandatory across the board cuts and tax increases to force discipline on our free borrowing legislators.

That would be a real mortgage relief bill!

I’ll post links to DQs numbers when they’re available, & you can see how we did.

I’d also like to get a more detailed post up about our thoughts about real mortgage relief. Trouble is, I’ve got to get to work on my real job so I can pay my mortgage. Because I really don’t want Barney Frank forcing my grandkids to eventually pay it for me.

Friday 5/9 postscript: DQs actual numbers (click here for OC Register blogger Jon Lansner’s  DQ graphs & comments for today) indicate even greater strengthening than I expected. Still having some optimism left in my troubled soul, I’d like to hope this means we really have reached a bottom.

In fact, I’ll go so far as to say that if long-term mortgage rates dropped 1% instead of continuing to go up, and if lenders adopted more reasonable underwriting standards, I’m pretty sure we could call last winter as the bottom for both prices and sales.

But I doubt either of those will happen soon. Instead, I think rising mortgage rates (not to be confused with the fed’s overnight, short-term rate) will combine with continuing over-reaction by investors and lenders with tougher than necessary standards to cut this party short. The large pool of homes entering foreclosure is also a negative indicator.

It looks to me like we have passed the bottom in terms of sales activity, but the bottom in terms of price probably (or should I say “maybe?”) still lies ahead this coming winter or next.

DataSlow’s lagging and confusing median prices will continue to improve for another 2 - 5 months, but we’ll see price month-over-month price declines kick in later this year, even as the year-over-year percentage drops decrease.

Overall, I’m beginning to become more optimistic, and am willing to admit that the bottom may, indeed, be past. But only if mortgage rates come back down, which I really don’t see happening.

Bottom line: We’re not deviating from our November post, “How low will prices go?” Nobody can really know what’s next.

Update from David Emerson: We wrote the following post early 4/15, in anticipation of DataQuick’s release of their March closing statistics for all of Southern California, including L.A. & Orange Counties, Lakewood, Long Beach, Los Alamitos, and the surrounding area. As we predicted, DQ’s March numbers showed an increase in sales which was quite modest by seasonal standards, and also a modest firming in prices.

We’ll insert excerpts from today’s DQ report at appropriate points through the post below. We’ll indent them & put them in italics. We’re leaving our earlier projections and commentary unchanged, because it’s still applicable:

“DataSlow,” as we like to call them, should be out today with their March closing statistics for Southern California. Here’s our preview & interpretation. We’ll update this as needed once the numbers are out.

Data quick reports Southern California two statistics every week and every month: sales volume and median sales price.

It looks like both will be down from March 2007, which will probably get most of the attention. But the month over month figures should be more hopeful.

We expect sales volume to be up a tad from February,

[Here's what DQ reported:] A total of 12,808 new and resale houses and condos sold in Los Angeles, Riverside, San Diego, Ventura, San Bernardino and Orange counties in March. That was up 18.8 percent from 10,777 the previous month but down 41.4 percent from 21,856 in March 2007.

and median prices to be pretty close to February’s numbers.

The median price paid for a Southland home was $385,000 last month, the lowest since $380,000 in April 2004. Last month’s median was down 5.6 percent from February’s $408,000, and down a record 23.8 percent from $505,000 in February 2007. That peak median of $505,000 was reached several times last spring and summer.

[Dave here. This is still a reduction in the rate of decline, and it was caused by some of the problems with median statistics, details below. When isolated by county, the stabilization is more apparent. For example, Orange County's March median of $506,000 was down less than 3% from February's OC DQ median of $520,000. More significantly, OC's $506k March median was actually up from DQs last 4 week OC reports, which both came in at $500,000. Pretty much what we predicted--but don't read too much into that, bulls (details to follow)

Now a word about what that would mean.

It's important to bear in mind what these numbers actually are. First, in terms of today's rapidly moving market, DQs numbers are ancient history. That's because Data Quick today will report Southern California real estate sales that closed escrow during March.

That means the purchase offer was most likely written 45-60 days earlier: Someplace between January 1 and February 14.

Second, DQ's price numbers are medians. If more homes are selling in stater neighborhoods, the median price will drop even if prices are rising. (For a more detailed discussion of the problems with DataQuick's numbers, see "Two big problems with DataQuick's median prices.")

The sharp and sudden drop of the Southland median price reflects a combination of factors, mainly depreciation, especially in areas hammered by foreclosures, and a big shift in the types of homes selling. Since last August, when the continuing credit crunch hit, sales have plunged for more expensive homes financed with "jumbo" mortgages, which until recently were defined as loans over $417,000.

Sales financed with these larger loans, which the credit crunch made more expensive and harder to get, accounted for just 15 percent of Southland sales last month, down from about 40 percent a year ago.

[This is the problem with medians. DQ explains it, but only in the ninth paragraph of their report.]

Even with their problems, however, DQs numbers can be useful. These should offer something for everyone, but some caution is in order.

Housing bears shouldn’t focus too much on the year over year numbers to the exclusion of some possible modest improvement from February to March.

Likewise, housing bulls should be wary of reading too much into what might just be a normal seasonal increase in activity and prices (see “Southern California’s 2 housing market cycles“).

Over the past 20 years Southland sales have risen by an average of 38 percent between February and March. Last month’s 18.1 percent increase from February was the lowest in DataQuick’s statistics, which go back to 1988.

We don’t think today’s DQ numbers will change our own position on what’s ahead (See “A change in our projections?” for our April 4 projection post, or our “classic” November post on this market, “How low will prices go?“)

DQs report is available here. You might also want to check out Peter Hong’s concise, well-written article on today’s DQ numbers.

For a little longer term perspective, you might want to click back to either of our last two posts, (”A little more perspective”) and (”A little perspective“).