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A week ago I told L.A. Times real estate reporter Peter Hong that much of a Realtor’s job in this market involves delivering bad news to homeowners. Pretty much the opposite of three years ago.

“You go from being like a doctor who delivers babies,” in a booming real estate market, I said, “to being an oncologist, just giving people bad news all day long.” (”Foreclosure glut further depresses housing prices“) Shoot the messenger time. Or keep dialing until the seller finds an agent who tells her what she wants to hear. (See #1 in “5 ways NOT to pick an agent.”)

Well, today brought more bad news for homeowners.

But that’s just one side of the coin. Unlike our 1980-82 housing bust, where mortgage rates topping at 16% were bad news for BOTH sellers and buyers, today’s bad news for sellers is good news for buyers.

Which can turn it into good news for some sellers who might also be buyers, and several other types of buyers:

First, this could be an excellent time to buy for “move out” sellers who are headed to more overbuilt areas like the Inland Empire, Vegas, Texas, or the Central Valley. That’s because prices there have generally dropped more than prices in Southern California’s coastal plain.

Such a “move out” seller can get her current home in escrow, then take her time looking in that outlying area, as prices continue to decline. There are plenty of homes to choose from, and lots of motivated sellers out there.

Folks who are willing to sacrifice a little temporary inconvenience for a lot of greenbacks & that elusive “perfect” home should consider renting in their new community while they continue to look. A buyer with cash in hand is in the best negotiating position, too. This move also lets you take advantage of the annual real estate market cycle (See “Market Predictions 101: Our 2 real estate market cycles“.

Second, the time may also be right for “Move Down” sellers, especially those looking to buy a condo. Since we’ve had a glut of condo building through much of our area, even coastal plain condos are experiencing rapidly declining values and lots of foreclosures.

The same goes for the more modest “starter” single family homes, which turn over more often and have more subprime loans and foreclosures. These aren’t just “blue collar” communities like Stanton or North Long Beach, but also communities like Lakewood, Cypress or even parts of Mission Viejo, which include large tracts originally build for first time buyers.

Third, this might be the right time to buy for people who are ready to settle into their dream home now. Specifically:

1. Buyers who will be living in this home for many years, and
2. Who have good credit, a down payment, and
3. Are tired of renting and are ready for the joys and trials of home ownership, and
4. Would like to start the 15 - 30 year process of paying off a mortgage so they can retire, and
5. Could use two of the three last great tax write-offs (mortgage interest, property tax, and donations), and
6. Are able to locate and negotiate an acceptable price on their “dream home.”

These buyers also might want to nail down the kids new school for next year. Maybe they’ve figured out that they want to enjoy their “dream home” while their kids are still at home. Maybe they’re concerned about interest rates going up. Maybe they know they’ve got busier times ahead & now’s the best time to look for a home & fix it up the way they want.

Maybe they know what we’ve been saying since last November: Nobody knows for sure what’s ahead. (See “How low will prices go?“)

Forth, this may well be an excellent time to buy for those whose personal situation suggests it. Someone who’s relocating into California, whether for work, family, or retirement. Someone who desperately needs a tax break. There are lots of different scenarios where personal situation trumps market speculation.

Some people would prefer to gamble with their stocks or in Vegas but not with home ownership. We believe there are plenty of things far more important than money (See “What to do when nobody knows what’s next,” “A little perspective,” and “A little more perspective.”)

Fifth, this might be a great time for buyers who appreciate the security of buying before or near the bottom.

Prices are already down 20% or more in many Southern California neighborhoods, interest rates are low, especially with inflation looming, and some special jumbo loan programs will be expiring soon. Why not take advantage of it?

Truth is, the best time to negotiate is just before the bottom. While prices don’t shoot up dramatically, the ultra motivated sellers and the super buys do disappear fairly quickly. And you never know it’s a bottom for sure until a year or two passes.

To take a very recent example, in January of 2007 we experienced a temporary “false bottom” caused by dropping rates and seasonal demand. In December I could find 10 - 12 low priced “super bargains” in Rossmoor, a popular west Orange County neighborhood. Within a month, they were all gone! We saw the same thing late in 2001 after the Fed dropped rates in the wake of 9/11.

Both 9/11/01 and 1/07 illustrate two things:

1. Super bargains disappear quickly when the market heads up.
2. You can only be sure of a bottom when you’re looking back months or even years later.

The “double dip” recession that started here in So Cal in 1989 during Gulf War I, then reversed to a new peak in 1990, then collapsed into the end-of-the-Cold-War bust of 1991 - 95 is a great example of # 2.

A personal story. During the ‘91 - ‘95 bust, Barb and I did not enjoy watching our rental homes decline in value, even as my income from real estate sales was also tumbling. But I wanted to avoid hefty taxes from selling those homes, many of which we’d owed for along time.

One day my colleague, John Spear, mentioned in passing that multi family properties in Long Beach had dropped to prices as low as four times Gross Rent. That means the price was down to 4 x the annual rent for some apartments.

Well, since apartments generally produce more income than single family homes, I decided it was time to use the wonderful tool of the 1031 Starker Delayed Exchange to convert our rental homes into rental apartment buildings. That way, even if the market continued to drop, at least we’d have some positive cash flow.

At that point, it looked like prices would continue to drop for years to come. A popular New York financial analyst wrote a syndicated column about how Southern California would never recover. Ever.

As they say, it’s always darkest just before the dawn. Turns out, I was buying at the bottom, but I didn’t know it. Possibly the best financial move (other than structured donations) that Barb & I ever made. And we didn’t even know it at the time. We were just lucky. Blessed, actually.

Bottom line?

If you can find a home you love and can afford with a 30-year or 15-year fixed mortgage, in a location you love, maybe it’s time to stop betting on further drops and become a homeowner. Even a professional gambler knows when to cash in his chips.

At least some of them. You could always pick up a rental or vacation home later on if prices continue to drop.

At least it might be time to start looking. Even if we all think the bottom’s still a ways off.

Only God knows for sure.

And He agrees with us that there are things far more important than money (see Matthew 6:19 - 34).

May 21 update: Ongoing increases in foreclosures and long term interest rates now make us more inclined to think that the bottom may be further off than we had hoped.

That doesn’t significantly alter our basic conclusions in this post, but it should at a little more caution. And a little more hope for those who are still saving for a down and seeking to improve their credit.

We recommend you check out today’s post on the subject: “Oh-oh! We just passed a nationwide bottom!.”

Note: Most of our market predictions are based on So Cal’s two market cycles: the annual cycle and the broader economic cycle. It’s basic stuff, but if you understand both cycles, you’ll be miles ahead of 90% of the population and 50% of the agents in trying to figure out what’s going to happen next.

Yesterday Peter Viles had an interesting post on who’s buying in So Cal today in his L.A.Times’ blog. That got me thinking about writing a post on “Time to Buy?”

But I’m going to save that post for the near future. Instead, I’m going to “set the stage” for that with the first post in our new “back to basics” Real Estate 101 series.

1: The “Economic Cycle”

In any real estate market, there are at least two basic cycles. We’ll call the longer cycle the “real estate economic cycle” It roughly corresponds with the boom-bust-boom-bust business cycle we’re all too familiar with. 20 years ago I used to say these cycles generally take about 4 - 7 years. In other words, it usually takes 4 - 7 years to go from bottom through peak back to new bottom.

Well, the current So Cal real estate “economic cycle” last hit bottom around 1995, so it’s already gone about 13 years. But we were heading for a bottom before the Fed began their “life support” intervention after 9/11 in 2001 (see “How We Got into this Mess”). That would have been about an 8 - 9 year cycle, at least.

2: The Annual Cycle

We’re not going to insult your intelligence by telling you how long the annual cycle lasts, but we will say it’s much more predictable then the longer “economic cycle.”

All things being equal, the annual cycle has both prices and activity bottoming in December, then gathering steam through the winter, peaking in late spring, leveling off in summer, and heading down in fall.

In what we used to consider a “normal” market, prices only went down in the fall about half as much as they went up in the spring. As we near the peak of a booming economic cycle, prices go up year round, but they go up faster in the spring and slower in the fall. Outside events, like the Fed lowering rates on 9/12/01 or Bush I invading Iraq in 1989 impact both cycles.

By “activity” we’re talking about homes going into escrow, which is what the average Californian means when she says “Our house just sold!” (Not that the average Californian is saying that much right now. But she would if she’d read our post on “How to Sell Your So Cal Home for Top Dollar in 30 Days in Any Market.”)

DataSlow’s median pricing statistics report homes closing escrow, which is usually about 30 - 60 days after they opened escrow. And DataSlow reports those stats about a month after the median closing date, so it’s 2 - 3 month old “news” when you read it in the paper. So DataSlow’s charts would indicate that prices peak in the summer, but that’s just the homes that went into escrow in the spring closing in the summer.

Why . . .

do prices usually peak in the spring and drop in the fall here in So Cal? 3 reasons:

1. Income taxes. Many buyers are brought into the market each year when they have their taxes done and realize they need more tax shelter, and that begins early in the year as those with simple returns file in January. For other’s, buying a home becomes a new year’s resolution.

2. Honey Do Lists. Many sellers also make a new year’s resolution to sell and move up or down. But all it takes for a buyer to “get on the market” (start looking) is to stop at an open house or get online (see “A Better Way to Search for Home Listings“). And first time buyers usually one to get into that home of their own by summer.

But it takes a lot of work for most sellers to get on the market! Work they’ve been putting off for years. And if it ain’t happened in the last decade, it ain’t gonna happen real fast now. For most sellers it takes 4 - 7 months to realize they’re not going to get everything done and call a Realtor for advice on what to do & who to hire. So must sellers are getting on board the real estate train right when most buyers have already gotten off. That affects supply and demand, which affects price.

3. School, Vacation, Weather & Holidays.

O K, that’s really 3 - 7, but we’ll lump them together. Buyers with school age kids want to get into their new home before school starts in the fall, and they want to have it in escrow before school gets out in June. That’s so they can get their kids signed up at the new school before the staff takes off.

Once summer hits, buyers have other things on their plate the rest of the year. Summer vacation, back to school, then Thanksgiving and Christmas. (Despite the weather, Christmas in California begins in September or October. As my pastor, Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa, says, “When you see those Christmas decorations going up in the stores, you know Halloween is just around the corner.”)

So buyers are pretty much too busy to buy from when the kids get out of school on. Sellers, however, tend to be at least one generation older than their buyers. They’re less apt to have school age kids, they take their vacations off peak, & they’re often just getting their home ready to put on the market when summer hits, as we said.

Selling a home is frequently a less discretionary decision than buying. Divorce, death, foreclosure, and job transfers occur at a fairly consistent pace all year round. (Actually, death tends to occur in the winter after Christmas, but you really didn’t log onto this blog to hear about my college days working at the Westwood Village Mortuary as a resident manager.)

Local Variations

The annual cycle varies by region somewhat. In areas with brutal winters (which to us is pretty much any place north of Fresno), things continue to drop until the snow starts melting. In resort areas, prices tend to peak during peak seasonl–winter in the desert & in ski areas, summer in most other vacation meccas.

How to Figure Out What’s Next

These two cycles are not synchronized, but they do influence each other. When the economic cycle is in a major downward move, prices may just level off in the spring, or even drop some. But if the downward cycle continues, they’ll drop even faster in the fall.

Our understanding of the annual cycle enabled us to predict the increase in activity that DataQuick and the Association of Realtors reported for February closings. It’s why we think closings will also be reported as up when March figures are released in about a week.

The question is, will the impact of the overall downward cycle overpower the normal seasonal uptick. Remember, it’s still early in the annual cycle: March closings mostly went into escrow in January and early February. Our best guess is that sales will be up but prices down for March closings, but by April or May prices may also be modestly up.

Part of the problem with prices is that DataQuick uses median prices, which can be skewed by differences in which price ranges of home are selling (see Jeff Collin’s summary of a detailed study that proves what we’ve been saying about this for years.)

Well, now you’ve got one of the basics of predictions down. Give it a shot, & see if you can impress your friends. Or shoot us a comment or question, so we can explain it better or add whatever we may be missing.

A while back the Sacramento Bee ran a good article on buying foreclosures. It reminded me of a very interesting experience with a HUD auction during the last recession in 1994.

Auctions

I teamed with a fellow Realtor and friend to research and bid on a major HUD auction of repossessed properties. From experience, we knew there would be lots of bidders and lots of competition, so we decided to focus on the least desirable location with the most REOs, which was at that time was Compton, and the least desirable type of property with the most REOs, which was condos.

I spent days researching about 50 Compton properties that were on the auction list. I walked through each property, checked sold comparables and similar homes available on the M.L.S., spoke with neighbors, etc. Most of the properties, although boarded up, had been stripped of heaters, major plumbing fixtures, even light bulbs. They were being sold as-is. I carried abaseball bat as I inspected, being on the lookout for homeless people who might have moved in.

When we showed up at the auction, it was like a circus! Adrenalin-pumping music, thousands of buyers, many sitting in groups with their gold-coated Realtors. (I’m not ridiculing any company here, just reporting what I saw.) The chairs were arranged in sections of maybe 200, each one worked by a smiling, enthusiastic, tuxedoed Texan.

We sat calmly amidst the chaos, opening our large 3-ring binders to our detailed notes on each respective property as it was loudly announced in a southern drawl by the animated head auctioneer. Every single property we had researched was bid up way above our market value. Sometimes there were real pride-of-ownership homes on the market on the same block with an asking price well below what the HUD repo sold for. We were grossly outbid on all 50 homes.

At one point I commented to the Texan working our area, “These homes are going for way above market value.”

“Oh oh!” he said, between prodding buyers to up their bids. “That means most of these deal will probably fall out and not close.” Even auction buyers apparently get remorse and sometimes realize they overpaid.

Our conclusion: There are buyers who are willing to pay any price for a foreclosed “bargain!”

From the Bee article, and others in local papers, I don’t think much has changed.

5/30 update: I spoke today with a friend who is also a former President of one local Board of Realtors. He’s now on the homeowner’s association board where he lives, & he told me that a townhome in his mid-priced OC complex just sold in a foreclosure auction about 20%- 25% below market, so apparently there are bargains out there at auctions right now.

We still recommend that you do your homework, like we did, and be careful of getting caught up in the euphoria of an auction.

By the way, that 20% below market margin is my minimum discount for buying a “flip” in a modestly improving market. I think I’d want 30% or more before I’d buy to flip today. That townhome was apparently bought by a Realtor who does a lot of business in that tract and intends to flip it. I hope he does better than the Realtor whose flip I plan to describe in a new post in the next day or two.

Foreclosure Tips

Now here’s a summary of what the Bee says you need to know in advance about buying bank-owned properties:

- First-time buyers will need to be pre-approved by one or more lenders.
- Don’t be surprised if the bank that owns the home requires that you finance your
purchase with them.
- Expect competition. Many buyers bid on multiple properties.
- Banks won’t accept offers that are contingent on selling your home.
- The best deals generally are those homes with the longest time on the market.
- Bank-owned homes typically sell for 10 to 20 percent less than their listing price.
- Be sure to pay for an inspection and consider the cost of repairs or damaged or
missing appliances when bidding on a foreclosure.
- The bank is likely to make a counter-offer. Be sure to consider this when submitting
your first offer.
- Some banks will not accept an offer unless it is submitted by a REALTOR®.
- Banks generally are looking to close quickly, within two weeks to 45 days.

Note added 4/9: From today’s release of SoCal stats on homes beginning the 4 - 8 month foreclosure process in March, it looks like we’ll have lots more foreclosure auctions in the months ahead. (See “So Cal Foreclosures Up Again & What It Means“)

late June update: for our latest projections post, check out So Cal home price bottom near?

For our view on how we got into today’s foreclosure crisis, check out “How we got into this mess“

For seven options for homeowners trying to avoid foreclosure, see “Trouble making your mortgage payment? 7 ways to get back on track“

For what a seller should do in today’s market, there’s “Top 5 ways NOT to pick an agent and “How to sell your So Cal home for top dollar in 30 days.”

Buyers might be interested in see “Time to buy?“

If all this down market is depressing you, that means you’re a homeowner and not a buyer. To keep things in perspective, consider any of the posts in our “perspective” category in the column to your right.

Today’s market presents many challenges and opportunities. Each cycle is different, but they all come to an end. That’s one reason they’re called cycles. The sun will come up tomorrow. Especially in Southern California!

The federal government today took another step to help ease the housing requirement, reducing required cash cushions Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac by a third. That frees up over six billion dollars for them to make additional mortgages, which obviously helps real estate nationwide. Unfortunately, it also reduces the cushion they have when they might need it most (click for brief summary).

If it works, however, the need for that cushion might be reduced. To us, it’s more evidence that the decision makers in Washington are doing all they can to stabilize the real estate market. It may extend the spring mini-boom we’ve speculated about here in Southern California. It also might make this spring a good time for refinancing. Every little bit helps!

7/15/08 update: Lots has happened since we wrote this post back in February. It has certainly been an interesting ride, and plenty of opportunities are still out there. For our latest posts on what’s going on, simply click “front page” in the upper left corner, then scroll down, or check out the “recent posts” in the upper right below our “search” box. We’ll continue giving you straight talk from real estate’s front lines, with the perspective of 30 years experience.

The Federal Reserve’s latest rate cuts may well have just radically shortened the present housing slump. The “bottom” may be a lot closer than anyone suspected just two weeks ago.

That may mean the time to buy is actually now, for several reasons.

First to get the lowest interest rates. Right now, you can get 30 year fixed mortgages well around 5.7%. That’s outstanding. . . but rates were a little lower a few days earlier. Why? Well, the Fed really can’t control long term rates–they’re set by market forces.

So, when the bond market thinks we’re headed into a recession because the Fed hasn’t lowered short term rates enough, long term rates drop. And when the Federal Reserve reduces the risk of recession by aggressively dropping the rates they control, long term rates move up. That’s one reason all the Fed rate increases back in 2003 - 05 didn’t reduce long term rates. And it’s why that much-expected additional lowering by the Fed could mean today’s mortgage rates may be the lowest we’ll see in a long time.

Second, this may be the time to buy because the best time to buy isn’t at the bottom, but a little before the bottom. I know first hand there are tons of potential buyers waiting to jump in once they think the market bottoms. The trick is to jump in before they do. Because the below market properties are the first to go. Plus, once sellers think things are moving up, they become much harder to negotiate with.

The truth is, almost nobody buys at the very bottom, or sells at the very top. And they didn’t know they were doing it until they looked back. I know–I bought several properties near the bottom of the last cycle around 1995, but I didn’t realize how fortunate I was until several years later. Likewise, I also once locked a long term interest rate at a bottom, but had no way of knowing it at the time. I just knew it was an interest rate I could live with.

A third reason this may be the time to buy relates to what we call the “annual real estate cycle.” You see, the forces of supply and demand are influenced by annual events. Buyers are way too busy to look for a home with the holidays around the corner, so demand slackens in December. Once the New Year begins & they’ve resolved to get that first home, demand picks up. Especially after they see how much they’re paying in taxes. As we move into late spring, the push is on for many to move to a better school district. Parents want to get the home in escrow & lock in the address before the school administration is gone for the summer.

But as good weather & summer vacations kick in, buyers get other things on their mind & demand slows. That’s too bad, because that seller who resolved to get her home on the market in January is finally finishing their pre-listing painting & cleaning, & supply is finally increasing.

All of which means that, all things being equal, prices go up dramatically from Feb. - May, level in the summer, & decline in fall & early winter. Which means the annual cycle just bottomed. Then the Fed dropped rates. Twice. And Congress is working on a stimulus package. And maybe it’s time to start looking for bargains.

A while back we discussed some of the unique positive indicators in the So Cal real estate market, & mentioned that we’d discuss some of the negative indicators shortly. Well, shortly wasn’t so short, as we enjoyed Christmas, but here’s our tardy continuation.

Before we go negative, however, we should point out we’re putting our last unsold listing into escrow this week. We think that may be a positive indicator of a nice spring coming, so not all the arrows are pointing down.

However, 3 huge problems do loom on the immediate horizon:

1. Foreclosures. Most of those crazy subprime loans will be “resetting” in the next 6 months. “Reset” is a polite term for “payments zooming,” in some cases doubling. The banks are doing some things t0 help, but most still predict a massive increase in an already high foreclosure rate. They may be wrong, but it still will be a drag on the market.

2. Economic slowdown, or worse. Real estate is generally considered a “leading” indicator, & it may resume that role in the current economic cycle. Most builders and tradespeople we talk too are in a huge slowdown which may well continue to ripple through the economy, as the recent Christmas selling season seems to indicate.

3. Problems getting loans. The lending market has over-reacted to the sub-prime insanity, now making financing harder for everyone, even “prime” borrowers.

For these reasons, most economists predict it will be 2 - 4 years before real estate is back to “normal,” whatever that is.

We can just about guarantee that the December & January median price figures from DataQuick for Southern California will show continuing declines, probably drastic. But those are sales that went into escrow in November and December–old news.

We wouldn’t be surprised to see at least price stabilization locally this spring, for reasons hinted at by our being “sold out” in the middle of winter!

We’ll go into that in more detail in a few days. In the mean time, have a safe and happy New Years’ Celebration. And if you know anybody who needs a couple of good L.A. & Orange County real estate agents, we’re sold out & ready to go to work! Give us a call at 562-822-7653 any time!

March 31, 2008 update: We now have a direct link from this blog to the So Cal Multiple Listing Service. Just click “Search So Cal M.L.S.” under “Multiple Listing Services” near the top of the column to the right of this post. SoCal MLS covers Orange County and Greater Long Beach.

For tips on how to get the most out of the So Cal MLS search, read on:

For years we’ve been frustrated with the real estate search engines available to the general public.

Realtor.com is generally the most popular, and may have the best access to Multiple Listing Service (M.L.S.) listings on a nationwide basis. But we find the search options so broad they’re not terribly useful. (For example, “lot size” starts with a minimum 1/2 acre–not real useful in Long Beach!) Worse, their most popular searches use paid placement to sort the results. They also only show one photo unless the listing agent pays for more. (We know, because we pay for high placement & photos. Feels like extortion to us, but in this market we need to do all we can for our sellers.)

Now we’ve got a better option, at least for buyers (or sellers) interested in Orange County or southeast Los Angeles County. We just linked this blog, directly to the So Cal M.L.S. No ads, no paid placement, more photos, you can include homes in escrow, and you can search without revealing any personal info.

Now for some pointers about the search, from someone who’s been searching the MLS since before there were computers to search with. Just click on “Search So Cal M.L.S.” near the top of the column directly to the right of this post.

The basic search screen will come up, which lets you specify your exact price range, or just a top price (or bottom price, if you happen to be Bill Gates). We recommend going slightly above your top price, since most sellers are willing to negotiate in this market.

Don’t skip “style,” because that’s where you specify single family or condo/townhome or both.

Under city you also have the option of searching by zip code, which is a huge help in every city we know of with more than 1 zip code.

You can also search by school district, another major help in cities like Lakewood or La Palma that are split between several districts.

Before you click on “Search Now,” be sure to scroll down another inch to click on the “Advanced Search” bar. This lets you specify a minimum for square feet of living space. That’s often more useful than bedroom count, since one listing agent’s bedroom is another’s den and another’s closet.

As you scroll down you may want to skip the “special” sections, as that data is not mandatory for listing agents to input, and many agents apparently have better things to do than properly market their listings.

Be sure to scroll all the way down to the “Include:” section, where we recommend including the max 15 properties at a time so you can scroll instead of clicking pages. The cryptic “display results with” drop-down allows you to sort by price, starting with the lowest priced homes. Again, to accommodate Bill Gates & his colleagues, you can also sort starting with the highest priced homes if you prefer.

Please give it a try, & let us know what you think, if you have any questions or other tips, by clicking on the bold “comment” directly below on the right.

In our last post we explained why we agree with Freddie Mac’s chief economist, Frank Northaft that “We just don’t know [when the market will hit bottom or how low prices will drop] because we’re in totally uncharted territory.”

As if to illustrate our point, since we wrote that we’ve seen huge swings in stocks as Federal Reserve leaders twice surprised the markets with supposedly clear indications they intend to further reduce rates.

Now, as promised, we tackle the logical next question of what buyers and sellers should do in such an uncertain situation.

The key is to base your decision making primarily on what you know, not on speculation about market trends. Market timing is nice, but it’s highly speculative and subject to surprises from the Feds, politicians, consumers, other nations, and even terrorist attacks. Instead of trying to precisely time the market, figure out what you really want or need and brainstorm options, work, & wait until you find an acceptable solution.

As my mortgage broker once told me when I was trying to time the interest rate market in locking a loan, “if the loan works at the current rate, go ahead & take it. ” In other words, don’t gamble on something that works. As my mother used to say, “A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.”

This approach usually works with buying, if 3 conditions are met:

1. You’re planning to live in the home for a long time, 5 - 10 years.

2. You’re buying with a loan that’s fixed for at least 10 - 15 years.

3. You’ve got fairly stable income.

If it works, do it. The better it works, the more you should do it. Especially if you like the location and the floorplan. After all, location is the one thing you can’t change, condition is the easiest thing to change.

The same goes for selling. If you can sell & move up to your dream home at today’s prices, don’t roll the dice on prices going up. Especially any time soon. A year from now you may wish you’d sold today. What your neighbor got two years ago is irrelevent–the question is, will today’s price work for you?

For those of us who are people of faith, we’d add in prayer. God is the only one who does know what the future holds, but he’s also a lot more concerned about our character than our money. (Actually God’s the only one with a perfect perspective on money, too.)

King Solomon was the wisest and richest monarch of his day and he said it well: “Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and don’t rely on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will direct your paths.” (Proverbs 3:5,6) That worked almost 3,000 years ago, & it still works today.

Note, 7/15: This is our classic post on the current housing turmoil. We think we’ve been proven right by subsequent events, so there’s no need to modify it, although we’ll occasionally add updates at the end. We think it’s as relevant today as it was when it was written.

Yesterday (11/27) the Los Angeles Times front page asked “Homeowners’ big question, How low will prices go?”

Today, they gave us a partial answer: “L.A., O.C. home prices decline sharply.”

We’ve got a better answer: “Nobody knows.” We first heard it at the California Association of Realtors’ economists panel in Anaheim last month. It came from Frank Nothaft, chief economist at Freddie Mac, as he was discussing how low prices would go and when things would turn around: “We just don’t know,” Nothraft said. “We’re in totally uncharted territory.” His point being that the problems brought on by sub-prime lending make this “correction” a new animal.

In a way, however, Northaft was just restating the conventional wisdom regarding any market’s cycles: “They don’t ring a bell when it hits the bottom. Or the peak.”

The consensus seems to be we’ve got 1 - 3 down years ahead of us, more if a major recession hits. Most economists also predict that Southern California real estate will take a bigger hit than the national average, just as we went up more. Prices are predicted to “correct” between 15% and 40%, with most economists in the 20% to 25% correction range. Maybe worse for outlying areas like the Inland Empire or Palmdale, and for entry level condos everywhere.

Having a bit of a contrarian nature, when everybody gets on the recession bandwagon, we start thinking about getting off. To be honest, we’ve already seen price corrections of as much as 20% in Lakewood, Los Alamitos, parts of Long Beach and Orange County and some other markets we serve.

That’s from peak to current low, and it’s comparing like homes (similar location, size, & condition), not the almost useless median selling price that takes comparing apples with oranges to an insane new level.

With interest rates dropping again and prices already down, we wouldn’t be surprised to see prices start moving upward this coming February. But we wouldn’t be surprised if they kept dropping as well. (We’re talking about prices on homes going into escrow in February, not closings. So the increase that may come this February would show up in March or April closing statistics.)

Why don’t we know? “Uncharted territory.” Too many variables: interest rates are dropping, prices have dropped, but more foreclosures are coming, and Congress may be making the “liquidity crisis” worse with the House’s proposed “reform” bill. We just don’t know. Nobody does. If they say they do, they’re either lying or deluded, or God.

What to do when nobody knows when we’ll hit bottom? That’s in the post which follows this one, (”What to Do When Nobody Knows What’s Next”).

7/15 update: Nobody knows what’s next, but that doesn’t stop us from making our best projection, which we try to update regularly as needed. For our latest posts, just look under “Recent Posts” near the top of the column to the right.

On a more uplifting note, you might also want to check out “A little perspective.”

Finally, we’ve added two links at the top of the column to your right so you can search almost all of Southern California’s Multiple Listing Services directly:

Search So Cal M.L.S. gives you direct access into the MLS covering Orange County and southeast Los Angeles County (think Greater Long Beach).

Search M.L.S. Alliance gives you direct access to a search across almost all Southern California Multiple Listing Services.

Feel free to play with them both & see which one you prefer. You shouldn’t find any ads as you use them, but you will have to deal with our picture as you search. We’ve been told you can print it & put it in your attic to deter termite and pest infestations.